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		<title>RE: Yews</title>
		<description>[size=200][b]What is a Genuine Russian Woman?[/b][/size]

I wanted to take a moment to re-visit this whole idea of what makes up a [b]?Genuine Russian Woman?.[/b] You have to understand that one of the most important ways to categorize women from a man?s perspective is to know if she is a ?Supporter? or a ?Competitor?.

When I describe things at this deeper level we can for now just completely ignore nationalities? Russian Girl, American Girl or Andromeda Galaxy Girl.. makes no difference because the fundamentals are all the same.

So, let me cut to the MOST IMPORTANT fundamental thing you need to know..

ALL WOMEN are walking Baby Making Machines?

(And if any woman you currently know wants to TRY to deny or de-emphasize this then they are completely full of big dog do do. Try to imagine you as a guy wanting to deny that you have a D*CK! It doesn?t work too well does it?)

?Supporter? Women are completely in touch with this ?baby making machinery? reality.

They understand that to make the BEST Babies requires the BEST Husbands with the BEST Loving Environment possible. When you read a common Internet agency or Dating site profile on any number of Russian girls how often have you seen the phrase, ?I want to make a happy family?. I?m willing to bet that you?ve seen this or a variation of it quite a few times. Now .. does it get any more obvious then this?

These women did NOT say..

?I want to be a liberated and sexually free woman who focuses on MY CAREER so that I can screw myself out of the most fertile years of my life and then go to an expensive pregnancy clinic covered by my health plan during my mid to late 30?s in order to try and get my older and deteriorating eggs artificially inseminated with some anonymous guy?s sperm de-thawed from a test tube.?

Do you need me to continue with this wonderful illustration? I don?t think so..

Women who are in-touch with their inner ?baby making machinery? don?t mess around my friends. They want what you want too.. Love, Stability, Understanding, Sex, Good Future and Family.. AND they are more honest about it as well.

Now this doesn?t mean that you are going to be able to Russia or the FSU and tell a girl like this right away that you love her ?so let?s get hitched and make babies now!? No but you will still need to play the game of love? And it?s there for a very good reason too. She needs to know you respect her BUT at the same time she needs to know that you are not afraid to be a leader who will keep the family ship on course come hell or high water.

I?m not going to bullsh*t you cause most of the time this is a real challenge to pull off but with time and experience you will understand why and how you can hit the right triggers to spark the right magic. 

There are women all around the world that fit this qualification of understanding their ?inner baby making machinery? but I am focusing primarily on Russian women because they not only deeply have these qualities but a big percentage of them are incredibly beautiful too!

So hopefully you get a sense for what a genuine Russian Woman is? It?s not so hard eh?

If you are around one and you feel that baby making machine speculating through her behavior towards you then that?s all you really need to know. She shows respect to herself because she honors the awesome power of that machine within her. The way she also behaves towards you as a man will also directly reflect this and it is the BEST way for you to discover what a Genuine Russian Woman is.. or isn?t..

Note: When you have a quiet moment I want you to seriously close your eyes and imagine what the woman I?m talking about looks, sounds, and feels like.. because this will help you answer this question in more ways then you can possibly imagine.

Now because we are spending lots of energy talking about motherhood and family this doesn?t mean that you or her are expected to create a kid production factory any time soon. It just means that when it does happen, having children along with her marriage to you will BE THE DEFINING moment of her life? as it should be for you guys too.

From marriage to conception to birth to raising children.. Her ability to be a woman, a mother and a wife is her ?Prime Directive?. If you as a Man truly wants to know what a Genuine Russian Woman is at her deepest level then you must ultimately walk this life long path with her since your answer will only grow more profound with time.

If you?ve ever seen the way Russian mothers take care of their kids you would completely understand what I mean. To me there is no comparision anywhere else in the world with the simple, loving and powerful motherly energy they project.. If any of you Men are a little like me.. and if you are fortunate to see and FEEL this yourself.. you will probably stand back in complete awe and realize that you are most likely witnessing one of the most beautiful and loving manifestations in all of the creation.

And you will never forget it. 

[url=http://www.russianworldforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=84][b]What is a Genuine Russian Woman?[/b][/url]</description>
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		<dc:date>2009-09-05T16:12:07-04:00</dc:date>
		<dc:subject>Yews</dc:subject>
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		<title>Yews</title>
		<description>U should do what ever feels best , as long as no one gets hurt</description>
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		<dc:date>2009-04-01T04:38:44-04:00</dc:date>
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		<title>RE: RW woman would not have sex</title>
		<description>Should I put her in scammer list or youtube scammer list to warn people</description>
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		<dc:date>2009-03-30T02:56:46-04:00</dc:date>
		<dc:subject>RW woman would not have sex</dc:subject>
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		<title>RE: RW woman would not have sex</title>
		<description>thanks...i am moving on now...but i am still upset that I got scammed .. it&apos;s not about money but rather the idea.:(</description>
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		<dc:date>2009-03-29T08:42:13-04:00</dc:date>
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		<title>RE: RW woman would not have sex</title>
		<description>Yes mate, you were scammed. Of course you made the number one mistake of sending gifts or money before you even met the woman. The second mistake was getting her to meet you at your expense somewhere other than her home country. ANY Russian woman will accept an all expenses paid free holiday, even from a man they dont particularly like. The smart move is to send nothing to them before meeting in person and then be very modest in your spending. I am a lucky man who married a caring and kind Ukrainian woman, but I did meet plenty of bad women before finding her. When you are looking at the persons face you can tell so much more about them. For example EVERY Russian woman will go to an expensive restaurant, but not many are willing to go to a cheap restaurant with a foreigner. I am an ordinary working man who wanted a woman who accepted the way I lived, so I was not prepared to treat someone like a princess, or they get used to it. I would ask the women if they wanted to go to lunch at McDonalds. Remember most of these women cant afford to pay for themselves there. If they said NO I dont eat McDonalds then I knew they were no good for me. The woman I married happily accepted McDonalds, and she was a Medical Doctor with a kind heart. She had 2 children and for one person to eat at McDonalds was the equivilent of a days pay for her, whether you believe it or not, its true. We live in Australia and have been married for 8 years now, we cant be happier ourselves, but we do know a lot of Russian marriages that have failed. 
Never assume a Russian woman thinks the same as a western woman, big mistake. Most want to leave for a better life which I understand, the trouble is many women will say and do anything to leave. Even using a man and taking as much of his money along the way. Many Russian women are heartless with the nature of a scorpion, yet they can look so beautiful, a real trap. So guys trust your gut insticts, if you feel you are being used, then you probably are.</description>
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		<dc:date>2009-03-28T10:51:32-04:00</dc:date>
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		<title>RW woman would not have sex</title>
		<description>I met this RW woman,emailing each other sweetly for 4 months. I sent her lavish gifts. I am a a businessman in New York. I paid for her trip to Dominicana. I thought we would have sex as I have told her in our emails. After I bought a ticket to Dominican , she emailed me she would not have sex --- she had to know me first. So, we met and have a nice time for the 4 days but I got cranky because she would not have sex with me. I confronted her and I told her we are not a good match because she is not physically attracted to me and would not have sex. I SENT HER MY PICTURE BEFORE MEETING IN DOMINICANA.

Did I get scammed or she is not physically attracted to me ? Or she is just a pro dater ?

PLEASE ADVISE.. MY man&apos;s ego is terribly HURT !</description>
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		<dc:date>2009-03-18T03:36:33-04:00</dc:date>
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		<title>Unethical behaviour</title>
		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;StormRider said:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quotetext&quot;&gt;You did this on RWD, you did this on RUA, now you&amp;#39;re doing this here, old fool....But it&amp;#39;s good you found this place to piss on and not back to those two....Soon you will be swimming on your own piss too....foolish foolish old man.&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 12pt&quot;&gt;[b]How does it feel to be ignored willy wanker?

It&amp;#39;s cold out there and your craving for attention.......drives you nuts!

You choosed to behave like an idiot... so now you get what you deserve.

Just for your information if I want to post on RUA I can..... but I don&amp;#39;t want to!

Enough time I spent writing to you.... 

and it was expected that you will continue your spoil brat tactics

but you can&amp;#39;t edit our posts anymore!. :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh: 

[/b]&lt;/span&gt;

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		<dc:date>2008-09-20T05:43:06-04:00</dc:date>
		<dc:subject>Unethical behaviour</dc:subject>
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		<title>Unethical behaviour</title>
		<description>You did this on RWD, you did this on RUA, now you&amp;#39;re doing this here, old fool....But it&amp;#39;s good you found this place to piss on and not back to those two....Soon you will be swimming on your own piss too....foolish foolish old man.</description>
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		<dc:date>2008-09-20T04:40:56-04:00</dc:date>
		<dc:subject>Unethical behaviour</dc:subject>
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		<title>Unethical behaviour</title>
		<description>It is an unwritten rule that you never insult or make any kind of derogative comments or insinuations for another members wife/husband.

Our  little Willy Wanker moderator has crossed that line [b]by posting comment for Gorkys Guy wife and mine[/b] and I am sure that you all have read those comments. Now he went in and deleted those comments?.. but I have already a copy!

We all have watched his behaviour lately and I can fairly say that it is indicative of a person with many insecurities and a large inferiority complex. I dont think such person is able or can be part of our fun club because members will not tolerate his irrational, arrogant and idiotic behaviour.

Our little [b]Willy Wanker[/b] who has access to the mod room on the[b] &lt;u&gt;Chat room ONLY&lt;/u&gt;[/b] has also decided to spoil our club atmosphere and fun, like a spoiled brat!

I would suggest from now on, we avoid posting there any new subjects. 

So what is your views?</description>
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		<dc:date>2008-09-20T04:21:06-04:00</dc:date>
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		<title>Belarus.... is this the last place????</title>
		<description>Probably yes. Moscow is not Russia any more than London is UK and NY is USA. 

I passed the Belarus border by road a couple of days ago, just near Hrodna, there seems very little there, farmland seperated by Soviet style flats I saw. Very grim. 

I had the strangest experience; I have just driven up to Estonia from UK via France, Germany etc, at the border area between Belarus, Kaliningrad, Lithuania and Poland, there is a road sign that says Russia to the left (Kaliningrad), Belarus to the right, Poland is a U turn and Lithuania is straight on - odd! A cultural crossing point if you like. 

[i]BTW - The trip report is on RWA if anyone gives a hoot. [/i]

I would recommend Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Moldova as easy MEE territory, and although not FSU as such; Poland! There are many hungry looking smokinghotpolskis&#xa9; there!





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		<dc:date>2007-07-20T17:44:08-04:00</dc:date>
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		<title>Belarus.... is this the last place????</title>
		<description>&amp;quot;Syd. Belarus is a country. not just a province of Russia. 
Moscow is different from the rest of Russia, it&amp;#39;s one of the most expensive cities in the world.&amp;quot;

...I agree, I visited Moscow 2 years ago...and I cannot figure out how the &amp;quot;average income&amp;quot; locals can afford this ??...parked all over the sidewalks you can see many lux. cars like Hummers, high end german cars , etc ?? all Russian Mafia ??</description>
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		<dc:date>2007-07-19T00:47:10-04:00</dc:date>
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		<title>Divorce in the Ukraine.</title>
		<description>I am not sure, but may be your marrige not recognizable in US, but if you planning on getting married in Ukraine again (some other time) you are better be divorced there too. 
It&amp;#39;s better to get divorce or annulment of your marrige anyway - you don&amp;#39;t need to have a hanging wife somewhere out there.</description>
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		<dc:date>2007-06-20T19:51:42-04:00</dc:date>
		<dc:subject>Divorce in the Ukraine.</dc:subject>
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		<title>Belarus.... is this the last place????</title>
		<description>why not try some of the countries that end in STAN like Kazhikstan etc....</description>
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		<dc:date>2007-06-02T03:05:46-04:00</dc:date>
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		<title>Divorce in the Ukraine.</title>
		<description>Has he registered the marriage at home yet ?  I was reading here once that if he doesn&amp;#39;t send in the paper work,than his country doesn&amp;#39;t reconise the marriage. 
 I also knew a USA guy who held off filing,after some things surfaced with his wife,even though he married her in UA.</description>
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		<dc:date>2007-06-01T07:10:03-04:00</dc:date>
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		<title>Divorce in the Ukraine.</title>
		<description>I have a rather serious question to ask and am looking for some serious help. A freind of mine married a girl from the Ukraine and is in the process of bringing here here on the I-130. He just flew here to Jamaica to spend some timetogether with her before bringing her her and had a complete nightmare. Now since he married her in the Ukraine. What does he need to do to get his marriage ddivorced or annuled. What is the legai process there and who should he contact here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.</description>
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		<dc:date>2007-05-31T18:34:06-04:00</dc:date>
		<dc:subject>Divorce in the Ukraine.</dc:subject>
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		<title>Belarus.... is this the last place????</title>
		<description>Syd. Belarus is a country. not just a province of Russia. 
Moscow is different from the rest of Russia, it&amp;#39;s one of the most expensive cities in the world.</description>
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		<dc:date>2007-04-25T04:52:25-04:00</dc:date>
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		<title>Belarus.... is this the last place????</title>
		<description>As far as I can tell most people in Moscow are pretty well off and have about the same standard of living as in western countries, so almost no economic reason to leave. On the bright side, there is less chance she wants you for your wallet. Actually, for most that&amp;#39;s not a bright side.

The more rural you get, the more desperate the girls are to meet their old, overweight and super rich sugar daddy.</description>
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		<dc:date>2007-04-24T12:29:15-04:00</dc:date>
		<dc:subject>Belarus.... is this the last place????</dc:subject>
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		<title>Belarus.... is this the last place????</title>
		<description>In My trip thru the internet the last few weeks.... all the serious girls are from Belarus...???? Girl&amp;#39;s in Moscow are quite happy to stay there!! Ukraine almost the same......anyone else have similar thoughts???
and I am using russian websites not your anglo sites....</description>
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		<dc:date>2007-04-24T10:26:42-04:00</dc:date>
		<dc:subject>Belarus.... is this the last place????</dc:subject>
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		<title>And how much do you care about loooks ? - Thread Started April 17, 2005</title>
		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;windchimes said:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quotetext&quot;&gt;My first post here after lurking for a while. So let me in on the lingo: What is an HRB?&lt;/div&gt;
&amp;quot;Hot Russian Brides&amp;quot; .com
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		<dc:date>2007-03-14T18:07:37-04:00</dc:date>
		<dc:subject>And how much do you care about loooks ? - Thread Started April 17, 2005</dc:subject>
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		<title>And how much do you care about loooks ? - Thread Started April 17, 2005</title>
		<description>My first post here after lurking for a while. So let me in on the lingo: What is an HRB?</description>
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		<dc:date>2007-03-14T18:05:04-04:00</dc:date>
		<dc:subject>And how much do you care about loooks ? - Thread Started April 17, 2005</dc:subject>
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