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RE: Breach of Copyright

2009-09-05T16:20:15-04:00

[size=200][b]What is a Genuine Russian Woman?[/b][/size] I wanted to take a moment to re-visit this whole idea of what makes up a [b]?Genuine Russian Woman?.[/b] You have to understand that one of the most important ways to categorize women from a man?s perspective is to know if she is a ?Supporter? or a ?Competitor?. When I describe things at this deeper level we can for now just completely ignore nationalities? Russian Girl, American Girl or Andromeda Galaxy Girl.. makes no difference because the fundamentals are all the same. So, let me cut to the MOST IMPORTANT fundamental thing you need to know.. ALL WOMEN are walking Baby Making Machines? (And if any woman you currently know wants to TRY to deny or de-emphasize this then they are completely full of big dog do do. Try to imagine you as a guy wanting to deny that you have a D*CK! It doesn?t work too well does it?) ?Supporter? Women are completely in touch with this ?baby making machinery? reality. They understand that to make the BEST Babies requires the BEST Husbands with the BEST Loving Environment possible. When you read a common Internet agency or Dating site profile on any number of Russian girls how often have you seen the phrase, ?I want to make a happy family?. I?m willing to bet that you?ve seen this or a variation of it quite a few times. Now .. does it get any more obvious then this? These women did NOT say.. ?I want to be a liberated and sexually free woman who focuses on MY CAREER so that I can screw myself out of the most fertile years of my life and then go to an expensive pregnancy clinic covered by my health plan during my mid to late 30?s in order to try and get my older and deteriorating eggs artificially inseminated with some anonymous guy?s sperm de-thawed from a test tube.? Do you need me to continue with this wonderful illustration? I don?t think so.. Women who are in-touch with their inner ?baby making machinery? don?t mess around my friends. They want what you want too.. Love, Stability, Understanding, Sex, Good Future and Family.. AND they are more honest about it as well. Now this doesn?t mean that you are going to be able to Russia or the FSU and tell a girl like this right away that you love her ?so let?s get hitched and make babies now!? No but you will still need to play the game of love? And it?s there for a very good reason too. She needs to know you respect her BUT at the same time she needs to know that you are not afraid to be a leader who will keep the family ship on course come hell or high water. I?m not going to bullsh*t you cause most of the time this is a real challenge to pull off but with time and experience you will understand why and how you can hit the right triggers to spark the right magic. There are women all around the world that fit this qualification of understanding their ?inner baby making machinery? but I am focusing primarily on Russian women because they not only deeply have these qualities but a big percentage of them are incredibly beautiful too! So hopefully you get a sense for what a genuine Russian Woman is? It?s not so hard eh? If you are around one and you feel that baby making machine speculating through her behavior towards you then that?s all you really need to know. She shows respect to herself because she honors the awesome power of that machine within her. The way she also behaves towards you as a man will also directly reflect this and it is the BEST way for you to discover what a Genuine Russian Woman is.. or isn?t.. Note: When you have a quiet moment I want you to seriously close your eyes and imagine what the woman I?m talking about looks, sounds, and feels like.. because this will help you answer this question in more ways then you can possibly imagine. Now because we are spending lots of energy talking about motherhood and family this doesn?t mean that you or her are expected to create a kid production factory any time soon. It just means that when it does happen, having children along with her marriage to you will BE THE DEFINING moment of her life? as it should be for you guys too. From marriage to conception to birth to raising children.. Her ability to be a woman, a mother and a wife is her ?Prime Directive?. If you as a Man truly wants to know what a Genuine Russian Woman is at her deepest level then you must ultimately walk this life long path with her since your answer will only grow more profound with time. If you?ve ever seen the way Russian mothers take care of their kids you would completely understand what I mean. To me there is no comparision anywhere else in the world with the simple, loving and powerful motherly energy they project.. If any of you Men are a little like me.. and if you are fortunate to see and FEEL this yourself.. you will probably stand back in complete awe and realize that you are most likely witnessing one of the most beautiful and loving manifestations in all of the creation. And you will never forget it. [url=http://www.russianworldforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=84][b]What is a Genuine Russian Woman?[/b][/url]

RE: Breach of Copyright

2009-05-13T06:33:50-04:00

:laugh: I love you Hellen! How come you never told me this place was back up ? Sorry but I have to agree with Hellen, and for that matter anything that is posted on the internet is out there for our life, so asking things to have copyright of agreements placed on them is difficult to uphold. After all someone out there has copied your TR and kept it in his PC. My TR is here as well,it's also a sticky and was quite popular in it's day.

RE: Breach of Copyright

2009-03-06T15:06:05-04:00

pssss :whatever: trip report which is nobody intereted in any more.... I always wondered how people who used to satisfy their graphorrhea itch with posting at internet think so high about their masterpices and right on them

Breach of Copyright

2009-02-28T12:40:41-04:00

In your recent resurrection of this site you have reloaded old material for which you have no copyright whatsoever. I complained about you reprinting my trip report back in 2006. You had the decency to remove it. Now it is reloaded as a sticky albeit in your trash section. Remove this thread. I have a written agreement with Spencer Forrest relating to the original publication of my trip reports. You have no rights to this material whatsoever.

RE: Obama Enters the Great Game

2009-01-28T21:46:15-04:00

Hello Wiz, funny how we come full around to the great game again. Not so funny is the need for a full partnership between the RF and the USA, the only combination that can face the future giant in the East, C. When the RF Gov becomes more powerful and more respected than the orginised crime Lords, and the Chinese begin their inevitable push for the far east resources, in an almost unpopulated land of plenty. It will become easier for both the USA and the RF to buddy up, and Euorpe will follow suit. How Afganistan is the key, I don't know, but it is likely that it will stir the fanatics in India and Pakistan to use their Nuclear capibilities, which would scare the rest of the world into some drastic measures to improve relations or face to much chaos to recover from and remain the same world status quo.

Obama Enters the Great Game

2009-01-22T14:55:17-04:00

U.S. President Barack Obama was sworn in on Tuesday as president of the United States. Candidate Obama said much about what he would do as president; now we will see what President Obama actually does. The most important issue Obama will face will be the economy, something he did not anticipate through most of his campaign. The first hundred days of his presidency thus will revolve around getting a stimulus package passed. But Obama also is now in the great game of global competition ? and in that game, presidents rarely get to set the agenda. The major challenge he faces is not Gaza; the Israeli-Palestinian dispute is not one any U.S. president intervenes in unless he wants to experience pain. As we have explained, that is an intractable conflict to which there is no real solution. Certainly, Obama will fight being drawn into mediating the Israeli-Palestinian conflict during his first hundred days in office. He undoubtedly will send the obligatory Middle East envoy, who will spend time with all the parties, make suitable speeches and extract meaningless concessions from all sides. This envoy will establish some sort of process to which everyone will cynically commit, knowing it will go nowhere. Such a mission is not involvement ? it is the alternative to involvement, and the reason presidents appoint Middle East envoys. Obama can avoid the Gaza crisis, and he will do so. [size=150][b]Obama?s Two Unavoidable Crises[/b][/size] The two crises that cannot be avoided are Afghanistan and Russia. First, the situation in Afghanistan is tenuous for a number of reasons, and it is not a crisis that Obama can avoid decisions on. Obama has said publicly that he will decrease his commitments in Iraq and increase them in Afghanistan. He thus will have more troops fighting in Afghanistan. The second crisis emerged from a decision by Russia to cut off natural gas to Ukraine, and the resulting decline in natural gas deliveries to Europe. This one obviously does not affect the United States directly, but even after flows are restored, it affects the Europeans greatly. Obama therefo re comes into office with three interlocking issues: Afghanistan, Russia and Europe. In one sense, this is a single issue ? and it is not one that will wait. Obama clearly intends to follow Gen. David Petraeus? lead in Afghanistan. The intention is to increase the number of troops in Afghanistan, thereby intensifying pressure on the Taliban and opening the door for negotiations with the militant group or one of its factions. Ultimately, this would see the inclusion of the Taliban or Taliban elements in a coalition government. Petraeus pursued this strategy in Iraq with Sunni insurgents, and it is the likely strategy in Afghanistan. But the situation in Afghanistan has been complicated by the situation in Pakistan. Roughly three-quarters of U.S. and NATO supplies bound for Afghanistan are delivered to the Pakistani port of Karachi and trucked over the border to Afghanistan. Most fuel used by Western forces in Afghanistan is refined in Pakistan and delivered via the same route. There are two crossing points, one near Afghanistan?s Kandahar province at Chaman, Pakistan, and the other through the Khyber Pass. The Taliban have attacked Western supply depots and convoys, and Pakistan itself closed the routes for several days, citing government operations a gainst radical Islamist forces. Meanwhile, the situation in Pakistan has been complicated by tensions with India. The Indians have said that the individuals who carried out the Nov. 26 Mumbai attack were Pakistanis supported by elements in the Pakistani government. After Mumbai, India made demands of the Pakistanis. While the situation appears to have calmed, the future of Indo-Pakistani relations remains far from clear; anything from a change of policy in New Delhi to new terrorist attacks could see the situation escalate. The Pakistanis have made it clear that a heightened threat from India requires them to shift troops away from the Afghan border and toward the east; a small number of troops already has been shifted. Apart from the direct impact this kind of Pakistani troop withdrawal would have on cross-border operations by the Taliban, such a move also would dramatically increase the vulnerability of NATO supply lines through Pakistan. Some supplies could be shipped in by aircraft, but the vast bulk of supplies ? petroleum, ammunition, etc. ? must come in via surface transit, either by truck, rail or ship. Western operations in Afghanistan simply cannot be supplied from the air alone. A cutoff of the supply lines across Pakistan would thus leave U.S. troops in Afghanistan in crisis. Because Washington can?t predict or control the future actions of Pakistan, of India or of terrorists, the United States must find an alternative to the routes through Pakistan. When we look at a map, the two routes through Pakistan from Karachi are clearly the most logical to use. If those were closed ? or even meaningfully degraded ? the only other viable routes would be through the former Soviet Union. ? One route, along which a light load of fuel is currently transported, crosses the Caspian Sea. Fuel refined in Armenia is ferried across the Caspian to Turkmenistan (where a small amount of fuel is also refined), then shipped across Turkmenistan directly to Afghanistan and through a small spit of land in Uzbekistan. This route could be expanded to reach either the Black Sea through Georgia or the Mediterranean through Georgia and Turkey (though the additional use of Turkey would require a rail gauge switch). It is also not clear that transports native to the Caspian have sufficient capacity for this. ? Another route sidesteps the issues of both transport across the Caspian and the sensitivity of Georgia by crossing Russian territory above the Caspian. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan (and likely at least a small corner of Turkmenistan) would connect the route to Afghanistan. There are options of connecting to the Black Sea or transiting to Europe through either Ukraine or Belarus. ? Iran could provide a potential alternative, but relations between Tehran and Washington would have to improve dramatically before such discussions could even begin ? and time is short. Many of the details still need to be worked out. But they are largely variations on the two main themes of either crossing the Caspian or transiting Russian territory above it. Though the first route is already partially established for fuel, it is not clear how much additional capacity exists. To complicate matters further, Turkmen acquiescence is unlikely without Russian authorization, and Armenia remains strongly loyal to Moscow as well. While the current Georgian government might leap at the chance, the issue is obviously an extremely sensitive one for Moscow. (And with Russian forces positioned in Azerbaijan and the Georgian breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Moscow has troops looming over both sides of the vulnerable route across Georgia.) The second option would require crossing Russian territory itself, with a number of options ? from connecting to the Black Sea to transiting either Ukraine or Belarus to Europe, or connecting to the Baltic states. [img]http://www.russianworldforums.com/photos/maps/AfghanLogistics.jpg[/img] Both routes involve countries of importance to Russia where Moscow has influence, regardless of whether those countries are friendly to it. This would give Russia ample opportunity to scuttle any such supply line at multiple points for reasons wholly unrelated to Afghanistan. If the West were to opt for the first route, the Russians almost certainly would pressure Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan not to cooperate, and Turkey would find itself in a position it doesn?t want to be in ? namely, caught between the United States and Russia. The diplomatic complexities of developing these routes not only involve the individual countries included, they also inevitably lead to the question of U.S.-Russian relations. Even without crossing Russia, both of these two main options require Russian cooperation. The United States must develop the option of an alternative supply route to Pakistan, and in doing so, it must define its relationship with Russia. Seeking to work without Russian approval of a route crossing its ?near abroad? will represent a challenge to Russia. But getting Russian approval will require a U.S. accommodation with the country. [size=150][b]The Russian Natural Gas Connection[/b][/size] One of Obama?s core arguments against the Bush administration was that it acted unilaterally rather than with allies. Specifically, Obama meant that the Bush administration alienated the Europeans, therefore failing to build a sustainable coalition for the war. By this logic, it follows that one of Obama?s first steps should be to reach out to Europe to help influence or pressure the Russians, given that NATO has troops in Afghanistan and Obama has said he intends to ask the Europeans for more help there. The problem with this is that the Europeans are passing through a serious crisis with Russia, and that Germany in particular is involved in trying to manage that crisis. This problem relates to natural gas. Ukraine is dependent on Russia for about two-thirds of the natural gas it uses. The Russians traditionally have provided natural gas at a deep discount to former Soviet republics, primarily those countries Russia sees as allies, such as Belarus or Armenia. Ukraine had received discounted natural gas, too, until the 2004 Orange Revolution, when a pro-Western government came to power in Kiev. At that point, the Russians began demanding full payment. Given the subsequent rises in global energy prices, that left Ukraine in a terrible situation ? which of course is exactly where Moscow wanted it. The Russians cut off natural gas to Ukraine for a short period in January 2006, and for three weeks in 2009. Apart from leaving Ukraine desperate, the cutoff immediately affected the rest of Europe, because the natural gas that goes to Europe flows through Ukraine. This put the rest of Europe in a dangerous position, particularly in the face of bitterly cold weather in 2008-2009. The Russians achieved several goals with this. First, they pressured Ukraine directly. Second, they forced many European states to deal with Moscow directly rather than through the European Union. Third, they created a situation in which European countries had to choose between supporting Ukraine and heating their own homes. And last, they drew Berlin in particular ? since Germany is the most dependent of the major European states on Russian natural gas ? into the position of working with the Russians to get Ukraine to agree to their terms. (Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin visited Germany last week to discuss this directly with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.) The Germans already have made clear their opposition to expanding NATO to Ukraine and Georgia. Given their dependency on the Russians, the Germans are not going to be supporting the United States if Washington decides to challenge Russia over the supply route issue. In fact, the Germans ? and many of the Europeans ? are in no position to challenge Russia on anything, least of all on Afghanistan. Overall, the Europeans see themselves as having limited interests in the Afghan war, and many already are planning to reduce or withdraw troops for budgetary reasons. It is therefore very difficult to see Obama recruiting the Europeans in any useful manner for a confrontation with Russia over access for American supplies to Afghanistan. Yet this is an issue he will have to address immediately. [size=150][b]The Price of Russian Cooperation[/b][/size] The Russians are prepared to help the Americans, however ? and it is clear what they will want in return. At minimum, Moscow will want a declaration that Washington will not press for the expansion of NATO to Georgia or Ukraine, or for the deployment of military forces in non-NATO states on the Russian periphery ? specifically, Ukraine and Georgia. At this point, such a declaration would be symbolic, since Germany and other European countries would block expansion anyway. The Russians might also demand some sort of guarantee that NATO and the United States not place any large military formations or build any major military facilities in the former Soviet republics (now NATO member states) of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. (A small rotating squadron of NATO fighters already patrols the skies over the Baltic states.) Given that there were intense anti-government riots in Latvia and Lithuania last week, the stability of these countries is in question. The Russians would certainly want to topple the pro-Western Baltic governments. And anything approaching a formal agreement between Russia and the United States on the matter could quickly destabilize the Baltics, in addition to very much weakening the NATO alliance. Another demand the Russians probably will make ? because they have in the past ? is that the United States guarantee eventual withdrawal from any bases in Central Asia in return for Russian support for using those bases for the current Afghan campaign. (At present, the United States runs air logistics operations out of Manas Air Base in Kyrgyzstan.) The Russians do not want to see Central Asia become a U.S. sphere of influence as the result of an American military presence. Other demands might relate to the proposed U.S. ballistic missile defense installations in the Czech Republic and Poland. We expect the Russians to make variations on all these demands in exchange for cooperation in creating a supply line to Afghanistan. Simply put, the Russians will demand that the United States acknowledge a Russian sphere of influence in the former Soviet Union. The Americans will not want to concede this ? or at least will want to make it implicit rather than explicit. But the Russians will want this explicit, because an explicit guarantee will create a crisis of confidence over U.S. guarantees in the countries that emerged from the Soviet Union, serving as a lever to draw these countries into the Russian orbit. U.S. acquiescence on the point potentially would have ripple effects in the rest of Europe, too. Therefore, regardless of the global financial crisis, Obama has an immediate problem on his hands in Afghanistan. He has troops fighting there, and they must be supplied. The Pakistani supply line is no longer a sure thing. The only other options either directly challenge Russia (and ineffectively at that) or require Russian help. Russia?s price will be high, particularly because Washington?s European allies will not back a challenge to Russia in Georgia, and all options require Russian cooperation anyway. Obama?s plan to recruit the Europeans on behalf of American initiatives won?t work in this case. Obama does not want to start his administration with making a massive concession to Russia, but he cannot afford to leave U.S. forces in Afghanistan without supplies. He can hope that nothing happens in Pakistan, but that is up to the Taliban and other Islamist groups more than anyone else ? and betting on their goodwill is not a good idea. Whatever Obama is planning to do, he will have to deal with this problem fast, before Afghanistan becomes a crisis. And there are no good solutions. But unlike with the Israelis and Palestinians, Obama can?t solve this by sending a special envoy who appears to be doing something. He will have to make a very tough decision. Between the economy and this crisis, we will find out what kind of president Obama is www.stratfor.com

Sinking Ship

2008-09-03T10:32:33-04:00

wiz33 said:

I am sure you have seen that? [b]Agency Scams[/b] :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Yes. It's [i]very[/i] old news. I first saw it before I joined this board. I have no idea if it is still factual as EC has undergone a few changes since that article was penned.

Sinking Ship

2008-09-02T16:13:49-04:00

I am sure you have seen that? [b]Agency Scams[/b] :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Sinking Ship

2008-09-02T08:05:03-04:00

wiz33 said:

I bow to your superior knowledge..... :smile:

It's commonsense, really, isn't it? So long as a board remains wholly positive and actively encourages newbies to sign up to the dating site it feeds, it maks good business sense. But once the male members start complaining about the women and the women complain about the 'foreigner males' - and worse, reveal the gory details of their failed liasons with one another, such a board ceases to be bait for a dating agency and becomes a liabilty. This is what happened here and happened again at 'Lucky Lovers' recently.

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...but I wonder why the old owner has not sold off the site to the new aspiring champion of the MOB business and famous author?

Manny may have many shortcomings but stupidity is not among them. He is a businessman. According to Alexa, this board has a traffic rank of 4,017,119. Manny's board has an Alexa rank of 3,350,366 Why would a businessman be interested in paying money for a site with a lower rank than his own? FWIW, the satire site I was associated with until 2006 and is now just an internet archive, still has an Alexa rank of 130,238 - i.e. [b]30 times[/b] higher than this board and over [b]24 times higher[/b] than Manny's board. Perhaps he should buy that? Too late, we flogged it in 2006 for $10,000. :-W: To put it another way, this board is no longer linked to any dating site. It has no incoming links from other sites (other than those members post) and no backlinks worth a damn. It has a handful of active members, almost none of whom are interested in finding partners. In short, what possible value can it have to anyone?

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Do you think that the owner is keeping the site for harvesting email addresses?

No. There are easier and better ways to harvest email addresses.

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What is your take on this?

I think it's simply been forgotten. The board takes up minimal disk space and uses almost no bandwidth. It would arguably take someone longer to dump it and clean up the server it's sitting on than leave it as it is. And there's always the possibilty it could be linked to some new site in the future. I really have no idea, Wiz!

Sinking Ship

2008-09-02T04:30:25-04:00

Gorky Guy said:

wiz33 said:

I was made aware the other day by a new member that Stalin and Hitler still continue sending Private Messages to all new members asking them to join their boards!

Stalin and Hitler? Don't you mean Beria and ~~Noballs~~ Goebbels? The gents you're referring to are not nearly in the same league as Koba and Adolf - allegedly... :innocent: As for the board, I'm yet to be convinced that the various 'admins' who keep popping up are what they purport to be. It seems to me that there is little interest among the new owners in reviving the sinking tub. Which is not surprising when one considers what a liability a flourishing board can be to a dating agency business. I note that 'Lucky Lovers' - a misnomer if ever there was one - have just separated their dating site from their board, much to the chagrin of many of their more troublesome members. In short, fellow castaways, a lively board is almost invariably bad for business if one is running a dating site that seeks to convince new punters that Russian women are angels just gagging to hook up with a balding, overweight American. 'Lucky Lovers' clearly decided their board was such a liability. I feel sure that the owners of this board think much the same...

I bow to your superior knowledge..... :smile: Well we know who has access to the admin side ......... but I wonder why the old owner has not sold off the site to the new aspiring champion of the MOB business and famous author? Do you think that the owner is keeping the site for harvesting email addresses? What is your take on this?

Sinking Ship

2008-09-01T10:13:16-04:00

wiz33 said:

I was made aware the other day by a new member that Stalin and Hitler still continue sending Private Messages to all new members asking them to join their boards!

Sinking Ship

2008-09-01T08:17:28-04:00

Nicole said:

donhollio said:

Yeah it was a good post Nicole. Nicole would you be able to share some information on what is happening to this forum from a admin standpoint ? Why does this place run wild ,than you come in and clean it up. But you don't bother to maintain this zoo ? My little home is cast adrift in a cyber sea,and I'd like to know what direction it's heading.

Don, We are in a state of transition. We have new owners and I am not sure yet who will be responsible for what. In the meantime I am cleaning up what I can, and trying to make a case for new forum software. [b]Thankfully I now have help from Shadow, Bodine, Freebird, B/B and RngRic.[/b] For everyone's information: I am not going to tolerate any more instances of the childish stupidity that occurred over the past few weeks. I have no hesitation in trashing such posts and banning members who flagrantly violate the ToS, in particular those who breach other members' privacy. Anyone who sees such violations -- feel free to PM me. I am not on here 24/7, but I will check my PMs each day. Nicole

We are still waiting to find out of any new developments....... but looks that [b]Nicole has gone on indefinite holiday! [/b] ..meanwhile this boad still...keeps sailing, badly listing...........but not sinking! :laugh: Oh before I forget............ I was made aware the other day by a new member that Stalin and Hitler still continue sending Private Messages to all new members asking them to join their boards!

Any news administrator?

2008-08-15T13:32:05-04:00

Hellen said:

I for example don't care who exactly bought this board ( what difference does it make if his name woul be Jonn or jack or whoelse there could be?) But I too would like to hear something from that one who is first of all other should not be indefferent to what is going on here. It's not polite just to ignore all questions asked by members. If this board is no more among interests of the former administartor then it would be nice of him to say a good bye at least

I expect the former one is already under your bed. And the current one does not want to be next. :laugh:

Any news administrator?

2008-08-14T02:09:11-04:00

emoties

2008-06-22T18:13:44-04:00

We need some Russian emoties the first is rolllings eyes with 3 fingers clicking under chin :rolleyes: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Whodat

2008-04-25T10:55:37-04:00

Misha said:

Same here. Or, as Jane Austen put in [i]Mansfield Park[/i] nearly 200 years ago: [i]'There are certainly not so many men of large fortune in the world, as there are pretty women to deserve them.'[/i] In present-day Russia, this truism is vastly magnified with thousands of exceptionally 'pretty women' chasing a very small number of 'men of fortune' (large or small). The prospects for [i]less[/i] pretty women, but otherwise eminently desirable ladies, are even bleaker. Sadly, the 'MOB' business does not necessarily make things any easier. The experience of my wife's female friends back in Russia has been that the 'quality' of Western men who advertise on most agency sites leaves a good deal to be desired. Whilst they may not drink or smoke, their level of education is often very low, they have little or no interest in music, literature or the arts and display a most disagreeable arrogance in their assumption that [i]any[/i] life outside Russia [i]must[/i] be better. So disheartening have some of the encounters between our Russian friends and foreign men been, that the ladies have just about given up on finding a suitable partner outside Russia.

Whodat

2008-04-25T09:21:37-04:00

Gorky Guy said:

donhollio said:

I've stated this before that I think this entire MOB for lack of a better term, is dying a slow death. It'll never end, but the heyday's are over.!

I agree with that. Economic conditions in the FSU have changed a lot in the last ten years. What hasn't changed is the shortage of eligible partners for Russian women, particularly, intelligent, professional women over 30. A good illustration of this is an English professor whom my wife and I know quite well. The lady is in her late twenties, very attractive and speaks fluent English and German and passable French as well as her native Russian. In the UK, men would be beating a path to her door. In Russia she stands almost no chance of finding a husband. I know another lovely young Russian girl in her early twenties who is almost certainly going to marry a Russian guy who no woman would look twice at over here. But in Russia, he's the 'best' that she can get as he doesn't drink and has a reasonable job. In short, I think the MOB has a bit of life left in it.

I agree. I will take the case of my wife. Gorgeous, late twenties, no children, and no prospects. Yes, if she had wanted any man, she could have found someone, but she wanted someone she could love and respect. Finally, she went to her local church and prayed before all the icons for a good husband, a husband that was kind and intelligent. A few months later, she met me. One day I will have the courage to ask her if I was the answer to her prayers :chuckle: :bow: To make a long story short, Gorky Guy is right in that even though Russia has gotten richer because of oil money, this hasn't made things necessarily any better or easier for women looking for a good husband.

Whodat

2008-04-24T08:50:22-04:00

donhollio said:

I've stated this before that I think this entire MOB for lack of a better term, is dying a slow death. It'll never end, but the heyday's are over.!

Whodat

2008-04-23T13:03:39-04:00

donhollio said:

I can't believe I was the 171st member here. Took me a few years to start posting though.

Hah! I didn't bother to look at that Don. But you got me curious. Interesting, I'm actually just 5 members behind you at 176. SmoothO took the 88th spot. [i]figures, eh?[/i] :grin: I think I signed up in December '03 under a different handle and couldn't remember the password I used then, so Spencer allowed me to resign as Matt (Bodine), and eventually he changed it to Matt3. [i]Been 'while[/i]

Whodat

2008-04-22T22:46:12-04:00

Bodine said:

People left because they felt the new site was more in concert with commerce than a non-profit community. Anyone can plainly see the irony in all of these today.

While its a nice thought to have someone else run and pay for a free commerce forum, its also not very practical. And yes I do see alot of irony in it !

Bodine said:

Bring in the people who are just embarking on this adventure. Others may not like the idea much, but at least it'll be a choice.

Of course if a newbie was to use a agency that wasn't honest... well as honest as they come in this business. One could always send a PM and let him know. A public question followed by no public replies, can speak volumes too :-W: I've stated this before that I think this entire MOB for lack of a better term, is dying a slow death. It'll never end, but the heyday's are over. I can't believe I was the 171st member here :confused: Took me a few years to start posting though. Now I'm like a whore with a hand grenade !